Siblings who hate themselves: Being a celebrity doesn’t mean anyone is exempt from family drama. In fact, now that reality television is on the rise with shows like Keeping Up With The Kardashians on E! and Braxton Family Values on WeTV, we know what is presented as the real dynamics between quite a few famous siblings. And while there are some celebrity siblings who just can’t seem to get enough of one another, it’s safe to say there are quite a few others who spend much of their time feuding with someone who grew up in the same home as them.

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Back in the day when the Kardashians were one of the first famous families on television, it seemed like Kim was the odd ball out as her family often accused her of being selfish and self-centered. But now, it seems like the new odd ball out is Rob Kardashian (I’ll get to that later).

And while famous twins Tia and Tamera Mowry seemed to be besties, their reality show Tia & Tamera revealed some pretty interesting dynamics between them as well. At the end of the day, it’s safe to say it is certainly a situation where famous siblings can say whatever they want about each other. But if anyone tries to come in and tear them apart, they’re a united front like never before, which isn’t really too much different than the average American family (not everyone can be Ben and Fred Savage). So, let’s take a look at the celebrity siblings who really just don’t seem to get along.

13. Rob and Kim Kardashian

Rob Kardashian was actually pretty close with his older sister, Kim Kardashian, at one point. And while he was always the one who was the most vocal about Kim’s diva behavior in the earlier seasons of Keeping Up With The Kardashians, they always hugged it out like the end of an episode of Full House. But lately, their feud seems like it is beyond repair. It started when Rob began distancing himself from his family. He stopped making appearances on a show and pretty much stayed indoors for years. He even opted out of attending Kim’s wedding so that cameras wouldn’t snap photos of him after he gained about 100 pounds. Kim was arguably the ringleader in getting Rob back on track with the family. But her tough love approach didn’t seem to work. Things got uglier when he not only dated, but proposed to Blac Chyna, who was once Kim’s friend until they had a fallout over even more intense family drama. Now, it looks like they’ve been able to put the past behind them.